A Sardonic Review of The Four Hour Body

TIMOTHY FERRISS, nominated as one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People of 2007,” is author of the #1 New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and BusinessWeek bestseller, The 4-Hour Workweek, which has been published in 35 languages.

Wired magazine has called Tim “The Superman of Silicon Valley” for his manipulation of the human body. He is a tango world record holder, former national kickboxing champion (Sanshou), guest lecturer at Princeton University, and faculty member at Singularity University, based at NASA Ames Research Center.

When not acting as a human guinea pig, Tim enjoys speaking to organizations ranging from Nike to the Harvard School of Public Health.

Oh man, this reminds me of this hilarious video

 For those of you who don't have time to watch videos, it's Michael Cera's parody on the hilariously arrogant video resume of Aleksey Vayner.

The video opens with a staged interview between Vayner and an offscreen voice. However, the "interview" ultimately consists of a single question, to which Vayner gives a lengthy, rambling response. Using considerable amounts of business-speak jargon, Vayner praises himself and shares his various insights on success, talent, and overcoming adversity. Interspliced with the interview are clips of Vayner performing various feats designed to look impressive, including bench pressing, skiing, playing tennis, ballroom dancing, and finally karate-chopping a stack of bricks. The video ends with a dedication to Radomir Kovacevic, and a fairly lengthy credits sequence.

Since moving to NYC, I've had the displeasure to meet many flaky young single men who idolize Tim Feriss. I was reminded of them recently when I saw this excellent Facebook Question: "Why is there such a strong correlation between the "paleo diet" movement and douchebags?" really worried that this would contain mostly douchebaggery, but then I heard Tim Feriss had become a man and gotten married. (Oops, this isn't true, which isn't surprising considering his relationship descriptions in the book, so I guess he's still out there testing his loathsome techniques on women).

So this book has got some great stuff.  It's more like a collection of blog entries, though they are very high-quality blog entries. That makes this a very hard book to review. Even more difficult because it contains 5 millions pictures of vaginas, which means I can't read it on the subway without getting paranoid that some creepy dude will read over my shoulder.

To boil water, the MED is 212°F (100°C) at standard air pressure. Boiled is boiled. Higher temperatures will not make it “more boiled.” Higher temperatures just consume more resources that could be used for something else more productive.

That's kind of how I feel about this book. A lot of it is devoted to hacking your body in ways I simply can't be bothered to do. At least he admits that this is a sort of smorgasboard reference-type of book. Pick the chapters you need and just read those.

For me, that's not too many chapters. "How to Hold Your Breath Longer Than Houdini" Why would I want to do things like this? Maybe I'm just lazy though.

I'd love to sleep less, but the polyphasic thing sounds like torture to me. The "Slow carb" diet he pushes is kind of gross to me. He seems to be under the misconception that you need to eat beans for some reason.

"Vegetables are not calorically dense"

Um, no shit?

"so it is critical that you add legumes for caloric load."

No, it's critical that you add fat for caloric load. It's clear people still get good results on his diet, but I think they would have better digestion and potentially eliminate autoimmune issues if they didn't bother with legumes.

BUT this book does feature some great foods: Kerrygold butter, raw milk, and grassfed beef for example. I think in 10 years maybe Tim's wife will civilize him and he'll come out with a book that has less powder, sugar-free Jello, Egg Beaters, and other things only single men consider edible.

MISTAKE #4: BELIEVING THAT YOU’LL COOK, ESPECIALLY IF YOU’RE A BACHELOR In a sentence: if you don’t normally cook, get canned and frozen food for the first few weeks. Don’t buy a bunch of food that requires cooking skills if you don’t have them. Don’t buy foods that spoil if you’ve never prepared a proper meal. Unfounded optimism will just result in rotten food and frustration.

How about getting married? Or even easier, taking a cooking class?

He's already starting to get it though:

Go fermented. Dr. Weston Price is famous for his studies of 12 traditional diets of near-disease-free indigenous communities spread around the globe. He found that the one common element was fermented foods, which were consumed daily. Cultural mainstays varied but included cheese, Japanese natto, kefir, kimchi (also spelled “kimchee”), sauerkraut, and fermented fish. Unsweetened plain yogurt and fermented kombucha tea are two additional choices. Fermented foods contain high levels of healthy bacteria and should be viewed as a mandatory piece of your dietary puzzle. I consume five forkfuls of sauerkraut each morning before breakfast and also add kimchi to almost all home-cooked meals.

And perhaps it might convince the general public that calories in=calories out is bunk? 

It wasn't until the end that I realize why so many young single men idolize Feriss: he's a nerd who's "made it." Hot women, buff body, tons of money. He can quote Dune and still have all these things. While I do worry he'll create a legion of wannabe Casanovas*, I'm happy he's warning men about the dangers of a modern lifestyle on their manhood and encouraging them to think about female orgasm from a technical perspective.

Also, it features two of my favorite bloggers Chris Masterjohn and Seth Roberts.

As for the bonus content...you have to hunt for passwords in the book? Talk about something I don't have time for.

*Honestly, if you want consistently good sex, a long term relationship/marriage is where you'll get it.

And this is the best review of the sex chapters ever:

I wanted to mention this in my initial review, but lacked the adequate time. The "15 Minute Orgasm" section is not nearly as enticing as it sounds. Basically, it's a trip to third base that is strange and just plain...ick. Ladies, picture a man grappling your lower body with his arms/legs pretzeled around your waist and thighs like he's wrestling a crocodile. Then, he uses his hands to spread your girl business open as if he's inspecting a large salmon fillet for stray bones. Now for the really sexy part: he uses his index finger to very gently stroke one tiny area of your little man in a boat for 15 minutes. That's all he does. FOR FIFTEEN MINUTES. Keep in mind, there's no other movement by either the male or female. Also, the woman shouldn't talk unless it's to answer specific questions. Why? Because women only talk during sex to distract themselves and not concentrate on enjoying it. Okaaaay. Thanks for the stereotype that we're all frigid and naturally inclined to deny ourselves any fun if it's left up to us. Hogwash.

Comments

Melissa, harsh but funny,

Melissa, harsh but funny, which is all you can ask of any review.
I'm still waiting on my copy (snow it seems brings the UK to a standstill) so I can't yet comment, but douchebaggery aside, his previous blog posts on non-exercise stuff are a combination of total OCD mixed with genuine insight. I have high hopes for this book. Not so high hopes that my better half will enjoy 15 minutes of crocodile wrestling mind you.

Keep in mind that this is a

Keep in mind that this is a guy who hired virtual assistants for under $300 to set up 20+ 15-minute coffee dates over the course of one weekend, and ended up meeting a long term girlfriend in the experiment. He's a brilliant, rich, incredibly cool guy who is in extremely high demand from women, and you think that settling would be the "grown up" thing to do?

The sex advice, while not new, is gold. I love how this amazon reviewer dismisses out of hand something that has been proven incredibly effective over and over. The 15-minute orgasm technique he mentions is something I was first introduced to in the writings of David Shade, who is a guy from the PUA community. I've used this many times, and always had success with it. Honestly, Melissa, it is something you can try on yourself to determine its effectiveness. Direct clitoral stimulation with a lubricated finger and a very light tough in the 1 o'clock position is all it takes.

The reason he sleeps around is likely because he has not yet met someone who is worthy of him. You make it seem like men are the problem, and women are all dateable/marriage worthy, but the reality is that both men and women in today's world are highly undateable, so there's no reason for a man like Tim to settle down any time soon with a woman who is undeserving of his commitment. We've had a discussion of Feminism and its effect on femininity in women in the past, so it surprises me that you would not see this.

I don't really understand your beef, to be honest. Every chapter in this book is pretty easily testable, and from the outset of the book he said that while he probably has the mechanisms for most of what he's written wrong, empirically everything he's suggesting works.

Geoffrey, you will probably

Geoffrey, you will probably not believe this but I heard men can orgasm from direct stimulation of their penis.
I should write a sex advice book about this and become rich and famous.

OMG, SRSLY? Direct clitoral

OMG, SRSLY?

Direct clitoral stimulation causes orgasms? Next you're gonna say the Earth is round and the moon is, in fact, NOT made of cheese.

NO EFFING WAY!

I'm the person who left that review. If you read it again, you'll see I was criticizing not the bean flicking itself (cos DUH, that does feel good) but the entire set-up and "rules" involving said contact. The man is completely clothed, the woman also clothed except for the waist down. There's no talking, and no other touching aside from a single very lightly grazing fingertip. Are you kidding me? Sounds about as romantic as a pelvic exam.

Oh and go back to the book. NO MENTION of lube. None. Cos Tim Ferriss is the Chuck Norris of female sexual response. He doesn't cause orgasms...they cause him. Or some other bullshit.

I agree, his 15-min orgasm

I agree, his 15-min orgasm technique is too restrictive. I've always found it much more of a challenge, and therefore much more enjoyable to both parties if I use my tongue instead of a finger. But there's a warning fellas. You have to build up tongue strength to maintain proper technique for 15 continuous minutes. Primal diet and HIT are very helpful in this department.

Abby, I think you make great

Abby,

I think you make great points. But to be fair, he wasn't suggesting this would be romantic, nor was he suggesting the romance be taken out of sex. The exercise is just a means to an end. The reasons for taking out the romance are to take out the expectations and to reduce the pressure. It seems like it would be most effective for women who have psychological barriers to orgasming, especially anxiety or guilt. It might not work for all those women, and women who don't have those barriers probably wouldn't want this at all, but I don't think it was intended to be a one-size-fits-all recommendation.

Chris

"The reason he sleeps around

"The reason he sleeps around is likely because he has not yet met someone who is worthy of him."

Ahahahaha.

Why would any girl want to date an OCD guy who sleeps around?

Sorry, but there are plenty of good women out there. And most of us already have the ability to orgasm without any alligator wrangling :)

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*Honestly, if you want consistently good sex, a long term relationship/marriage is where you'll get it.
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I think there are 2-3 good take-home points from the two orgasm chapters, regardless of whether his specific prescriptions for them are good ideas, and one of them is that for many women who can't orgasm the issue may be comfortability. I think that you hit the nail on the head in the sense that the most important way to improve that comfortability, in addition to adopting a moral view that doesn't leave one mired in guilt, is developing a deep bond of love and trust with someone.

In fact I think most of what Tim proposes are band-aid solutions to cover up the fact that this deep bond of love and trust is missing from so many relationships. But I do think that, while not entirely sufficient, monogamous committment is a critical part of the solution.

Chris

I always enjoy your writing,

I always enjoy your writing, Melissa, but was surprised by your rather vehement insistence that Mr. Ferris won't be truly a grown-up man until he is properly married (this from a 52 year old man married for 30 years & happily so).

I'm just being mean and old

I'm just being mean and old fashioned I suppose. But really...why are there so many thirty-something men still sleeping around?

Move out of the city. I lived

Move out of the city. I lived in Los Angeles the last 5 years and 95% of my 30+ year old friends were still single. Just moved to a burb 30 min from SF and 95% + of my 30+ year old friends are married, engaged or have a long term GF. It doesn't have anything to do with success either. My friends in the Bay Area who settle down have more advanced careers than my friends playing the field in LA. It's just that there are many many options in a big city.

Because they can! If women

Because they can!

If women want to start moving the world of 30-something men back towards marriage, they need to quit "putting out" for dinner and a drink! Courtship leads to marriage, casual dating leads to casual sex. We eat Paleo, why aren't we considering social more's that are more like Paleo -- if guys can get all the sex they want, they have no reason to look for more. All the sex they want is normal guy-behavior, not (necessarily) reprehensible.

Plenty of women don't want

Plenty of women don't want marriage or strict monogamy*, though, either.

I think sexuality (and the preferences that come with it) is a slippery animal that is not neatly caged by sweeping generalizations or even willing to stay static/constant within one individual.

*Nor offspring, for that matter.

Great discussion.

I was going to say exactly

I was going to say exactly that: because they can. They get all the fun they want, and they have no responsibility or commitment. I know a fair number of programmers in their late 20s and early 30s, and many of them are barely more than teenagers in what they spend their money and time on. It's all video games and anime, beer and sex, and they have a lot of disposable income to spend on it.

That's different from my

That's different from my experience. Almost all the programmers I know are in their early 30s, happily married, and with young children or children on the way. Maybe it depends on the industry? I work in a relatively stable one. I bet start ups have more of what you are talking about.

Yeah, I just figured I'd go

Yeah, I just figured I'd go ahead and give a thumbs up for Rob's post. Me being a programmer in his late 20's and spending all my money on video games, anime, and beer. It's not really just gettin all the fun we want, women kinda just suck =/ No offense to the women, but relationships are bad news. Just wish I was the kinda guy that was comfortable with sleeping around. 'Settling down' with some female is about as fun of an idea as death.

Have you ever dated a

Have you ever dated a non-American woman? Two of my friends married girls from Sweden, two from Brazil, one from France, one from Peru, and one in LTR with a girl from the Dominican Republic and one in a LTR with a girl from Taiwan. I only have one friend who married an American girl. Maybe if you try something else you'll find a girl who treats you as an equal, one who still values family and one who realizes that being obese will make your husband lose interest.

Why do women suck? You

Why do women suck? You realize this blog is written by one? ;)

I used to spend all my money of video games and beer. My ex boyfriend and I would spend all day lying around playing video games and then we'd go out to the pub or roast a chicken and watch a movie. The 20s are kind of the decade for this, though I'm feeling this winding up in my mid-20s.

I wish there would be more positive portrayals of relationships in our culture. But drama sells.

Yeah, that comment came off

Yeah, that comment came off as mean. It's about as bad as saying a single woman in her 30's is not a real woman and more of an old maid. I can only imagine how quick you would snap someones neck for making such a comment, lol.

Are there really that many thirty-something men still sleeping around or is that just your perception? And that's an actual question, not trying to provoke. I'm 42 and married 22 years so I have very little clue of the single life and am genuinely curious. My wife manages numerous mid to late 20's men and women and her general attitude is most of the guys seem like they haven't grown up and the women act uber entitled and spoiled. Is this something new or just the way people are?

Working my way through the book and so far find it a mixed bag. I do like how much he experiments and tests, but he does give off a bit of a hucksterish vibe at times.

I can only imagine how quick

I can only imagine how quick you would snap someones neck for making such a comment, lol.

Actually, it's even more important for women, if they plan to have children, to not mess around for an entire decade because we have a biological clock.

Are there really that many thirty-something men still sleeping around or is that just your perception?
In Manhattan? YES.

Good for the young men. Why

Good for the young men.

Why should they get married? Marriage leads to better meals or sex? Not at all. Young women don't cook these days and marriage is one of the greatest ways to kill your sex drive.

When women initiate over 70% of divorces and courts favor them so highly in alimony and custody battles no man in his right mind would get married today.

And that's really just scratching the surface of the reasons why.

Young women don't cook these

Young women don't cook these days and marriage is one of the greatest ways to kill your sex drive.

Not all young women are like that. It's been hard for me being single because I'm so used to cooking for men. Maybe it's because I was raised a Southern Baptist in Georgia.

I'm planning to have a pre-nup stipulating minimum days of sex :)

A Southern girl. Cool. I

A Southern girl. Cool.

I doubt in the Paleo world there were many 25 year + long term monogamous pairings. It certainly wouldn't have been the norm.

No way of knowing that. Sex

No way of knowing that. Sex At Dawn has some educated speculation that seems to point towards both sexes being hypergamous, but who knows really.

Many men back then also died in fighting/hunting.

I'm definitely old-fashioned

I'm definitely old-fashioned - married at 21 & never looked back. I've got a 24 year-old daughter, gorgeous & awesome - and see damned few young men worthy of her, so I get the frustration.

You're awesome. :) Chris

You're awesome. :)

Chris

After reading the first few

After reading the first few chapters thoroughly, and skimming the rest of the book (so far), I think Tim is trying to make clear that there is more than one way to get from point A to point B, whether it's legumes or no legumes, strict paleo, etc. As much as he seems to be against straight calorie counting, he states that it can work, to a point, if you have the discipline to sustain it. It is a smorgasbord of a book, and it seems to me more of a collection of experiments and their results on him, rather than a "this is exactly what to do" type book. And he actually touches upon strength training a la both Pavel Tsatsouline AND Doug McGuff, which you don't see very often in a single book.

Hilarious post. In changing

Hilarious post. In changing his name from Garber to Vayner, he may have inadvertantly told the truth. Too bad it didn't help him pull off what Tim Ferris had apparently done.

Thank you, Melissa.

Thank you, Melissa.

Any book, written by a man,

Any book, written by a man, that has in the title "Incredible Sex" is bound to be wrought full of bullshit.

The rich get richer and it doesn't matter if they're complete morons or not.

You've been busy the last few days Melissa. I'm still giggling about the hipster post. If those dudes get too much meat their little Frenchie pants might not fit their emaciated bodies anymore.

Curious where you found out

Curious where you found out he was married... because that's either a well-kept secret, or a misunderstanding.

It is curious he doesn't

It is curious he doesn't mention it in the book. Maybe he's not married anymore?

Hmmm, yeah, I guess you are right!

He did have a guest blog post

He did have a guest blog post up recently where the guest poster explains how he married a Brazilian model. Maybe that caused some misunderstanding.

Regarding the beans: Tim

Regarding the beans: Tim clearly saw the Paleo light well after the chapter on the slow-carb diet was written.

Regarding the 15-minute orgasm thing: My impression of that was that it was for women who can't get themselves off. Secret surveys seem to indicate that there are a lot of women who don't masturbate and don't have orgasms from sex.

The caloric-density staple

The caloric-density staple choices (legumes) of the slow-carb diet were perplexing. (He did give a nod to the G.O.M.A.D. approach, preferably with raw milk, in his mass-gaining chapter, to be fair.) I read the blog post with which Tim launched the Slow-Carb diet when it was first posted, but given that the Eades seem to be his main nutritional influences I was very surprised he didn't come to an "Aha, fat!" conclusion for getting enough calories and update the diet accordingly. The amylopectin C starch in beans is mighty handy, I'll admit, but being low-glycemic (mostly a distraction, independent of personal BG numbers) and promoting satiety isn't really worth enough to justify the lectins, phytic acid, and partial digestion (read: bloat) issues. Pre-processing or not. I think the legumes thing was perhaps an artifact that grew out of an earlier cholesterol-reducing strategy Tim may have followed, perhaps before the Eades and our buddy Chris Masterjohn set him straight vis-a-vis the lipid hypothesis and lipoprotein values.

I'm still planning to toss up a review soonish, once I can get all my wide-ranging thoughts on the book integrated. It's an important book - even if only for it's enviable positioning - and regardless of whether Tim is a one-eyed-man in a kingdom of blind douches (nope) or someone a bit more impressive (yep). I say ignore the thinly-veiled PUA-community (no disrespect, Dream!) vibe and pull from the book whatever feeds your needs. There are so many critical concepts (to paleo, exercise physiology, etc.) dropped 'between the cracks' in that book that it's wonderful to know it's out there and now accessible a large audience of pre-primed (and perhaps rabid) Tim Ferriss readers.

My girlfriend very much agrees with your take on things, Melissa! ;-)

I find myself puzzled by his

I find myself puzzled by his term 'slow carbohydrate'. Does he mean a low-glycemic, low-insuligenic, high-protein source? Or is he more interested in the prebiotic properties of beans? He excludes potato, but would cooled potato be OK? How about sweet potato? Jicama? Sunchoke?

If I were to try his diet, I would use lentils and reduce the lectins per the soaking protocol described at Whole Health Source.

I also found his specification to eat breakfast within an hour of waking a surprising contradiction to the fasting guidelines seen on many paleo sites, which want at least a 12 hour overnight fast. My problem is that I am not technical enough (in the nutritional field) to determine if the reference studies are appropriate and are being analyzed correctly.

I also found his one-day-a-week binge to be an interesting variation. If I were to test his diet, I wouldn't pig out on the sugary junk he does, but I would load up on gluten-free breads and lots of fruit, especially berries.

I have a difficult time determining the difference between a diet protocol which will improve the Standard American Diet (just about any diet protocol is better, as others have noticed), and one which will help me lose weight. I follow the paleo approach but I have 20 pounds to lose. Does his uncover useful hacks buried in the scientific literature, or is it just another improvement on the SAD?

Ferris' diet is just

Ferris' diet is just Body-for-Life. Right down to the weekly binge day. The formula is a very simplistic bodybuilding diet: low-fat proteins plus low-calorie vegetables eaten in multiple small meals throughout the day. You can find this formula repeated in multiple fad diet recommendations such as the Men's Health Ab Diet. It works. If you are trying to achieve rapid weight-loss, try it, but it is a snoozer.

I was perplexed when Tim

I was perplexed when Tim Ferriss advocate legumes yet he support Robb Wolf fully who opposed legume for the Paleo eating.

biologically, I still think legume will hurt health in long run and we can compensate for more caloric by eating more such as add more protein and fats.

on your asterisked note.

on your asterisked note. Having been married for 8 years to a woman I adore I must disagree totally with your statement. Long term relationships are no guarantee of good sex.

Any ideas why? Any ideas for

Any ideas why? Any ideas for improvement or avoiding the same course?

Chris

lots of ideas why. this has

lots of ideas why. this has been deeply examined by us. while I am happy to get into all the details the main thrust of it is that my wife came into our marriage a virgin with very little experience having only kissed two guys before we got married. i was quite the opposite.

we never had a deeply sexual connection when we met so there was never really a hot an heavy period to recall.

lets say you had your first sexual experience at age 15 and you had them with some sort of regularity until you were age 23. You have had 8 years of practice with different people. But assuming you keep that pace up for a few more years there is every reason to believe that you'll be a more proficient, fun, skillful lover because you are challenged, engaged on a regular basis.

but if there isnt a lot of sexual chemistry and there is someone who is still working on finding/defining their sexual being and you only have one person to practice with despite there being a remarkable relationship in every other facet...well, there you are.

improvement? take the fear and shame out of sex early. make the sexual boundaries of modern monogamy more porous. the modern notion that one person must be every thing to us - friend, lover, co-parent, nurse, financial support, mentor, inspiration, spiritual partner, cook, teacher etc... is folly. attempting it creates lots of intimacy but intimacy and desire are on opposite ends of the spectrum.

we learn by watching, doing, working, playing with different people in every field in our lives with the sad exception of sex. Bring compersion back into our vocabulary of activity.

Read Sex at Dawn, Mating in Captivity and Arousal:The Secret Logic of Sexual Fantasies

I think perhaps people with

I think perhaps people with more sexual experience have an advantage, but I think such abilities can also be cultivated independently.

It's almost 2011, we have the internet, if there is a woman out there who doesn't know how to have an orgasm (which is something most women figure out on their own) they need to start doing their homework and not rely on bumbling men :) It's funny because men watch so much porn and get some sex ed (mostly incompetent unfortunately) there, but there are still women out there who have no idea how to accomplish an orgasm and don't even try!

Actually the Christian sex ed books my mother gave me said there was nothing wrong with such "homework", which is quite remarkable.

And weirdly I don't feel like pleasure is correlated with experience, but with some sort of "magical" chemistry. When choosing a mate I want to make sure that essential desire is there from the outset. It's too bad when I meet nice men I have no chemistry with, but I'm not going to argue with biology because I know my experience has nothing to do with predicting pleasure, but that this quality does.

you are right that such

you are right that such abilities can be cultivated independently but it isnt that simple. Like piano or golf or chess or basketball starting younger gives you better chance at "becoming proficient". If you start later you can still become proficient but you need to compress the practice you might have had over years into less time.

Also like piano or golf or chess or basketball you play with and learn from different people - some are better than others and all refine your skill level.

My wife can have an orgasm, as a matter of of fact it is easy to get her to orgasm. That isnt the issue the issue is that we havent figured out where our sexual chemistries intersect.

But the rest our our relationship is spectacular and even though it has been pretty sexless I still feel as though I have married the right person. I think we will figure it out.

I think you're spot on about

I think you're spot on about the chemistry thing. We're told that even if we do find someone that we have chemistry with that it will fade within a few months/years. But to me, that is saying that you have to build the foundation for what is left after the "honeymoon" period is over.

I didn't want to settle down until I was at least 30.. then I randomly met my husband at 24 and haven't looked back since. For what it's worth... it's the best sex of my life! Continuing to nurture each other and the relationship has to take priority. Maybe Matt's wife should do some research... but I bet it wouldn't hurt for Matt to try and fulfill her in other ways. Though it's a bit on the Christian side, I'd recommend the 5 love languages as a starter book for him. He can spend 15 minutes reading it while his wife spends 15 minutes with Ferris's book...

The 5 Love Languages made me

The 5 Love Languages made me wretch. I despised that book. Condescending, thoughtless and small. That said we have lifted many a stone in many a field working and playing with this issue. Books, courses, videos, teachers, instructors, therapists, healers etc..

I am delighted that you are having the best sex of your life. Really. I am throughly devoted to my wife and fulfill her loads of other ways.

Thanks, Matt. So is that

Thanks, Matt. So is that your solution? To have sex with other people?

Chris

i dont know if that is the

i dont know if that is the solution. We havent tried it so I cant report. But broadly speaking - yes - I think that should be part of the "diet".

I think it requires absolute

I think it requires absolute honesty and that both partners be on the same page in terms of not taking sex for granted and making it the best it can be.

Oh, well I guess it's only

Oh, well I guess it's only with me then!

Melissa, Is this a book you

Melissa,

Is this a book you would refer back to occasionally or mainly good for a once through?

...Tim